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Old 02-01-2009
 
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I believe Thor is quite a misfit when it comes to the Terran arsenal. It's uninsipred just like the MotherShip, is constantly being reworked, yet it always overlaps with different units' roles or is rather useless.
The Thor is not constantly being reworked. The last time it was reworked was, what, the Zerg demo? In any case, it hasn't been so much as touched since then (aside from numbers adjustments that all units go through).
 
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Isn't The Thor's GtA splash enough? 4x4 splash damage in rapid succession with 10 range isn't enough to kill a group of mutas? Especially with marine support? Both Marines and Thors can open fire way before Mutas get into range? Marines having shield upgrade by the time zerg has mutas? I dunno marines aren't that vulnerable anymore. I really see Thor_support will be a "no fly zone" for light air.
 

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I did mention not knowing the RoF. Is the thor rapid-fire?
 

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It supposed to be anti light so its pretty much high RotF. Its the ground attack thats long cool down. I mean you don't give that low damage unless your RoF s a bit faster. The goliaths have large chunk damage so the have standard RoF. Anyway the range 10, thrice the range of a mutalisk. I have one wid where the Thor had GtA but still had the flak cannons. The cannons were firing very rapidly. I think it was the last WWI.
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I really hope you're being sarcastic here.

Particle Acceleration Cannons are, by their very definition, directed energy weapons. However, that doesn't mean that they have to look like "lasers"--the coherent-beam illusion only happens when you're accelerating the charged particles to relativistic velocities. In fact, PACs are really more akin to Gauss weapons, except they shoot high-energy subatomic particles instead of bullets. Its entirely possible that it shoots a pellet or spheroid of charged energy, which ignites the atmosphere as it leaves the barrel (hence the enormous muzzle flash). As for any similarities to the Siege Tank, I'd attribute that to them using related technologies (if I recall correctly, the Tank's Shock Cannon is plasma-based).

Now, I admit that a big red laser effect like you describe would look cool, but consider: would it really be worth the on-screen clutter of having another beam-type weapon obscuring things? Personally, I think that the current attack is already suitable impressive enough to fit the role; no need to change it. And if it bothers you enough that you still can't bring yourself to see them as particle accelerator guns, then you could always petition the devs to rename them something more conventional (like a rail-gun or kinetic projector cannon). More "traditional" weapons are actually fairly powerful by modern standards, anyway: lasers are notoriously inefficient weapons, and while all the caveats are hammered out, kinetic weapons keep getting better.
the other poster said the thor shoots shells accelerated very fast. you said its energy based. so what is it?

anyway, i really want the thor to fire a visible projectile not like just a cannon burst on its arm just like the siege tank. just imagine if the thor charges up first just like the yamato before it fires an red energy like fireball on its 2 arm guns, now thats way better and badass.
 
 

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anyway, i really want the thor to fire a visible projectile not like just a cannon burst on its arm just like the siege tank. just imagine if the thor charges up first just like the yamato before it fires an red energy like fireball on its 2 arm guns, now thats way better and badass.
I couldn't possibly agree less.

The Thor's GtG attack is perfect as is. I'm not saying the Terrans don't have lasers (Battlecruisers obviously do) and I'm not saying they don't have railguns (Cobras obviously do), but the Thor isn't a high tech weapon of war, and that's the whole point of the unit. It's the same reason it's so big, instead of something sleek and efficient.

The Thor is a cobbled-together mass of armor and guns, and that's what makes it so Terran. If you want to get rid of that, then might as well switch up the unit's whole design while you're at it.
 
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Speaking of the Thor, in the following screenshot you can notice one with its missile bays opened up.

http://sclegacy.com/images/uploaded/...reenshot08.jpg

Check out the Thor at the top-right.
 
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I wonder what it's shooting at, something offscreen obviously.
 
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I couldn't possibly agree less.

The Thor's GtG attack is perfect as is. I'm not saying the Terrans don't have lasers (Battlecruisers obviously do) and I'm not saying they don't have railguns (Cobras obviously do), but the Thor isn't a high tech weapon of war, and that's the whole point of the unit. It's the same reason it's so big, instead of something sleek and efficient.

The Thor is a cobbled-together mass of armor and guns, and that's what makes it so Terran. If you want to get rid of that, then might as well switch up the unit's whole design while you're at it.
"Thor isn't a high tech weapon of war...."

OMG... You obviously fail at SC lore. Check the official description:
The Thor is the Dominions's lastest top-secret military procejct, the pinnacle of terran technology:
The arm cannons are paticle accelerator cannons, more advanced than the BC's laser batteries
 
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I couldn't possibly agree less.

The Thor's GtG attack is perfect as is. I'm not saying the Terrans don't have lasers (Battlecruisers obviously do) and I'm not saying they don't have railguns (Cobras obviously do), but the Thor isn't a high tech weapon of war, and that's the whole point of the unit. It's the same reason it's so big, instead of something sleek and efficient.

The Thor is a cobbled-together mass of armor and guns, and that's what makes it so Terran. If you want to get rid of that, then might as well switch up the unit's whole design while you're at it.
mechs are high tech machine and are always equip with more not just canons and shells. and a mech as big as the thor is no brainer should have lasers or something. thats just usual for any mech. except for the golaith which is obiously a very low tier type of mech.

if you give the thor giant bullets then thats just mediocricity at its best and just trying hard to be badass. give the thor an energy weapon thats just as unique as the bc (the only terra ground unit and make sense to have it). not necessarily lasers but something similar.
 
 

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"Thor isn't a high tech weapon of war...."

OMG... You obviously fail at SC lore. Check the official description:
The Thor is the Dominions's lastest top-secret military procejct, the pinnacle of terran technology:
The arm cannons are paticle accelerator cannons, more advanced than the BC's laser batteries
Haha, you're absolutely right.

I was talking more about the unit's "feel" than anything, though. It has the look of something hobbled together from spare parts, this giant contraption of mass destruction. For me, it's the quintessential Terran unit, and it's funny that it took until SC2's release for it to be made:

"Crap, they're sending Zerglings!"
-"Give the guy a gun!"
-"Crap! They're sending Ultralisks!!"
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Speaking of the Thor, in the following screenshot you can notice one with its missile bays opened up.

http://sclegacy.com/images/uploaded/...reenshot08.jpg

Check out the Thor at the top-right.
Ah-HAH! From that angle I can totally see how those pods are missile batteries. It's just not obvious from the usual front-3/4 view.

Good find, man.
 
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