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Old 02-09-2009
 
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From Mozart to Van Gogh to Jimi Hendrix to Kurt Cobain, why is it that those with the greatest artistic potential destroy themselves with drugs and violence in their youth? Does the self-destructive behavior lead to great art? Or does the art lead to the behavior?
 
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Or perhaps it's just all in your head. Your just taking into account the artists who died early and or tragic while foregetting artist like Salvador Dahli, Stanely Kubrick, or da Vinci who didn't self-destruct and lived long lives.
 
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Or perhaps it's just all in your head. Your just taking into account the artists who died early and or tragic while foregetting artist like Salvador Dahli, Stanely Kubrick, or da Vinci who didn't self-destruct and lived long lives.
True. I mean, Beethoven didn't write the 9th Symphony, arguably one of the greatest works of music ever created, until he was 54 and completely deaf (again, a testament to how fucking great it is).

Then again, maybe there's a hype factor, especially in Cobain's case, or more recently with Heath Ledger. The possibility of what they could have accomplished if they hadn't died overinflates their actual accomplishments. The only person that doesn't follow that in recent memory is Hendrix. I shudder to think of what he could have created and where rock and roll would be today if someone had turned him on his side after he passed out.
 
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I haven't seen much a correlation between gifted artists and self destruction. Not like I've done a scientific survey or anything, but I'm inclined to say the perceived difference is simply due to the publicity these artists receive.
 
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I'm not willing to accept outright that there is any such correlation. It may simply be that they are more famous so you notice it more.

However if I had to offer an intuitive explanation, assuming it was a real phenomenon, I would point out that art is the imitation of life for the purpose of eliciting a cathartic emotional reaction. As such, the people who are the most skilled artists are the imitators who are most in tune with human emotion. So they would be more likely to go through the extreme emotional states, like depression, that lead to suicide.
 
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You forgot Amy Winehouse
 
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The discussion is about good music and artists.
 
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You forgot Amy Winehouse
She isn't dead...yet.
 
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She isn't dead...yet.
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strangely enough I had no idea who amy winehouse was until yesterday.
 
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Nope. Amy Winehouse is an extraordinarily solid musician. And rare are the people who disagree, and know what they're talking about.
 
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