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Old 10-24-2008
 
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Default What is the troop capacity of a battlecruiser?

In the book "Uprising" it says that a battlecruiser can house "hundreds" of troops. Yet, I have a hard time believing that the Terran capital ships are that small, they should hold a thousand at least.

Anyone see any other sources conflicting with the book uprising?
 
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In the book "Uprising" it says that a battlecruiser can house "hundreds" of troops. Yet, I have a hard time believing that the Terran capital ships are that small, they should hold a thousand at least.
I don't find that too surprising. StarCraft is pretty small scale, and the Brood Wars intro cinematic shows the UED flagship, the Aleksander, not to be wildly large.
 
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I guess it's possible, but I always imagined them to at least hold 1000 troops. I wonder how many battlecruisers the UED brought in for their expeditionary force. It had to be like a thousand just to bring a few hundred thousand ground troops.

Also, in the book "Uprising" there were 20 battlecruisers detected floating around Korhal. And they decimated it. Korhal was destroyed with 1000 nukes, launched from these cruisers. If each cruiser can hold 50 nukes each, it's ridiculous for them to only be able to hold a few hundred troops.

quite a number, especially with the capacity of each ship to hold hundreds of marines, dropships, siege tanks, even armored Goliaths.
 

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Keep in mind that "house" and "contain" are two totally different things. My house can contain a hundred people, but can only house a few.
 
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The battlecruisers collectively fired hundreds of missiles, not thousands. (The manual says thousands were fired from Tarsonis. Lots of disagreements there.)

Capital ships aren't designed to transport troops, either.
 

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The manual says thousands were fired from Tarsonis. Lots of disagreements there.)
Which didn't make sense to begin with considering the vast distance between planetary bodies. As far as I know, Terrans can't warp-in nukes. :P
 
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Also, in the book "Uprising" there were 20 battlecruisers detected floating around Korhal. And they decimated it. Korhal was destroyed with 1000 nukes, launched from these cruisers. If each cruiser can hold 50 nukes each, it's ridiculous for them to only be able to hold a few hundred troops.
A battlecruiser is a 'battle'-cruiser. So shouldn't the ships be able to hold more weapons than to be able to ferry troops?

Does anyone know if the Terrans have any other ships besides the battlecruiser? Certainly they must have several different space-ferrying dedicated crafts, like in Battlestar Galactica, though on the idea of combat ships and transport ships.
 
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A battlecruiser is a 'battle'-cruiser. So shouldn't the ships be able to hold more weapons than to be able to ferry troops?

Does anyone know if the Terrans have any other ships besides the battlecruiser? Certainly they must have several different space-ferrying dedicated crafts, like in Battlestar Galactica, though on the idea of combat ships and transport ships.
Here's the complete list: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/template:_Terran_Ships

There's one for protoss too!
 

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A battlecruiser is a 'battle'-cruiser. So shouldn't the ships be able to hold more weapons than to be able to ferry troops?
Yes, that's why you don't try and cram an army aboard your battleships, you cram them aboard transports which are designed specifically for that purpose.
 

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There is one brief reference to battlecruisers carrying up to "thousands" of troops, although the specific novel escapes me right now. I think it likely depends on configuration. There's a lot of room for variation with all the different equipment on board and different roles BCs are expected to fill.

Remember, battlecruisers aren't primarily troop carriers. The Terrans actually have a ship class specifically dedicated to that role. They seem more like command/sector dominance ships that do a bit of everything, a lot like Star Destroyers.
 
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Except star destroyers can carry like, 10 000 troops.
 
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Yeah, the scale's a bit different, but the role seems similar. I think battlecruisers have the potential to carry a lot more troops based on what we know of their size, but apparently they don't really need to.

Think of it this way: why add a lot of troop space when you have another ship dedicated to the role? Why not throw on a few extra laser turrets instead? After all, carrying people is a lot more messy and requires much more support, so logically you only want to carry as many as you absolutely need.

A few thousand marines, combined with vehicles, orbital support and fighters, should generally be enough for any mission the Dominion is sending just one battlecruiser, unassisted, to deal with. Things like peacekeeping, backwater revolts, etc. Bear in mind that marines are serious business for some lesser colonies, who may be using poor weaponry and armor. Most light weapons aren't effective at all against power armor.

Alternatively, you could configure it differently if it's not designated to work independently, carry less and swap out the space for something else.
 

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Apparently the entirety of Raynor's Raiders can be contained in the Hyperion, so I guess the ships just come in different sizes. :P
 
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Well, I was reading Starcraft: Queen of blades not too long ago. Raynor actually stole more than just the Hyperion. He went to the Dylarian shipyards and jacked quite a few, spreading his rag-tag militia group throughout the cruisers, about some hundreds per ship. However, Kerrigan managed to get her Zerg minions to board all his battlecruisers and they all got raped. He, while still on Char, immediately ordered Matt Porter to hyper jump somewhere, with no planning, before the Zerg could board the Hyperion. He did so and disappeared somewhere, before coming back later for Jim. So yeah, the Hyperion is his only ship now.

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Yeah, the scale's a bit different, but the role seems similar. I think battlecruisers have the potential to carry a lot more troops based on what we know of their size, but apparently they don't really need to.

Think of it this way: why add a lot of troop space when you have another ship dedicated to the role? Why not throw on a few extra laser turrets instead? After all, carrying people is a lot more messy and requires much more support, so logically you only want to carry as many as you absolutely need.

A few thousand marines, combined with vehicles, orbital support and fighters, should generally be enough for any mission the Dominion is sending just one battlecruiser, unassisted, to deal with. Things like peacekeeping, backwater revolts, etc. Bear in mind that marines are serious business for some lesser colonies, who may be using poor weaponry and armor. Most light weapons aren't effective at all against power armor.

Alternatively, you could configure it differently if it's not designated to work independently, carry less and swap out the space for something else.
Yeah, I agree completely. I just never knew before now that the Terrans had a troop-dedicated ship.
 
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