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Old 10-16-2007
 
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Default Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

and I'm less than impressed. I understand that they already itemized way too hard, but to give us such small upgrades? Christ.

This is what it looks like for me:

The format is Season Three first, then Merc Glad:

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39 Strength -- 35 strength
67 stam -- 65 stam
12 hit -- 14 hit
39 crit -- 35 crit
24 resil -- 24 resil
84 armor pen
1825 armor -- 1704 armor

4 strength, 2 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 84 armor pen, 120 armor
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51 strength -- 47 strength
70 stam -- 63 stam
12 hit -- 14 hit
47 crit -- 43 crit
22 resil -- 22 resil
84 armor pen
1597 armor -- 1491 armor

4 strength, 7 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 84 armor pen, 106 armor
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37 strength -- 33 strength
52 stam -- 46 stam
32 crit -- 29 crit
24 resil -- 24 resil
1141 armor -- 1063 armor

4 strength, 6 stam, 3 crit, 75 armor
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoulder Upgrade
33 strength -- 29 strength
57 stam -- 51 stam
30 crit -- 27 crit
20 resil -- 20 resil
1369 armor -- 1278 armor

4 strength, 6 stam, 3 crit, 89 armor
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Originally Posted by Head Upgrade
39 strength -- 35 strength
61 stam -- 54 stam
12 hit -- 14 hit
35 crit -- 31 crit
25 resil 25 resil
84 armor pen
1483 armor -- 1385 armor

4 strength, 7 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 84 armor pen, 98 armor
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4 strength, 2 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 84 armor pen, 120 armor -- Chest
4 strength, 7 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 84 armor pen, 106 armor -- Legs
4 strength, 6 stam, -0 hit, 3 crit rating, 0 armor pen, 75 armor -- Hands
4 strength, 6 stam, -0 hit, 3 crit rating, 0 armor pen, 89 armor -- Shoulders
4 strength, 7 stam, -2 hit, 4 crit rating, 0 armor pen, 84 armor pen, 98 armor -- Head

20 strength, 29 stam, -6 hit, 18 crit rating, 252 armor pen, 488 armor from the Season two to three "upgrades".
I'd call them a sidegrade =/

I don't include the helm into my personal final calc, because I don't use it- I use the engineering head. So it's even worse for me:

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16 strength, 21 stam, -4 hit, 14 crit rating, 252 armor pen, 390 armor
This doesn't include the three new vet pieces, nor the Season Three weapon- which by the way will be the first piece I intend to attain due to the much larger upgrade it lends me.
 
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edit: I was confused.
 

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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

The upgrades over seasons have always been relatively small. Take the paladin healing chest for example:
Season 1 -> 2 -> 3
45 stam -> 51 stam -> 58 stam
31 int -> 33 int -> 37 int
30 spell crit -> 32 spell crit -> 36 spell crit
27 resil -> 28 resil -> 28 resil
42 healing -> 46 healing -> 55 healing

total gain season 1 to 2: 6 stam, 2 int, 2 spell crit, 1 resilience, 4 healing
total gain season 2 to 3: 7 stam, 4 int, 4 spell crit, 0 resilience, 9 healing

I dont really see what you were expecting, but I knew that the upgrades wouldnt be the massive. This is also why I couldnt care less when they tacked on that 2k rating requirement for the shoulders (and also because when I start to do arena again I will likely be able to attain 2k easily anyway >.>)
 

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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

I like links and such this thread is very confusing for me

But seriously though,

TRD is right, since when were the upgrades from season to season THAT great. They need to give people a reason to gun for the top ranks but they don't want the SAME groups to sit on top all the time right?
 
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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

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I like links and such this thread is very confusing for me

But seriously though,

TRD is right, since when were the upgrades from season to season THAT great. They need to give people a reason to gun for the top ranks but they don't want the SAME groups to sit on top all the time right?
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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

It's not so much that the upgrades are small, just that they're THAT small.

I'm not going to be saving any points for season three gear- the first stop for my points will be the sword. That one piece will be a larger upgrade than all of my armor pieces combined =/
 
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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

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It's not so much that the upgrades are small, just that they're THAT small.

I'm not going to be saving any points for season three gear- the first stop for my points will be the sword. That one piece will be a larger upgrade than all of my armor pieces combined =/
Look at the example I gave, for paladins at least, it appears to be roughly the same sized upgrade (even though season 2 to 3 is actually a bigger upgrade than 1 to 2). I saved points anyway though, simply because I already had 4 pieces of gladiator and had T5 for the fifth piece. Start of the season I had 3 pieces of season 2 gear, it was nice.
 

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At this point, only the weapon is what I've got my eyes on, and I have to get an 1850 rating really fast to manage that. I'm hoping I can manage it the first week or so in the mad rush that will happen.
 
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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

At least it didn't lose stats like the Ret paladin set. WTB 29 strength back. WTS spell damage and armor penetration.


Generally the gladiator sets are a minor upgrade. You can only fit so much into the craptacular item budget system that Blizzard has. Also, keep in mind that a large chunk of the additional points went towards armor penetration. It seems to be a fad with Blizzard at the moment.
 
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At least it didn't lose stats like the Ret paladin set. WTB 29 strength back. WTS spell damage and armor penetration.
At least it has resilience now... in fact thats probably why it lost stats.
 

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Default Re: Arena Season Three Was Released Last Night

That's why it lost stats, but the fact of the matter is that ret paladin gear needs to be better than it was, not worse.

The reason the difference is so small is because Blizzard's big theme in BC (more and more so recently) is to lessen the gap between casual raiders/heroic groups and the hardcore bleeding edge raiders. Look at ZA if you need further convincing. I don't like it (because I consider myself a pretty strong player, so this hurts more than helps) but I definitely see why it's happening.
 
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how much honor is the tier 1 glad stuff? is there a link somewhere
 
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Under 20k, this I know for a fact.
 
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At this point, only the weapon is what I've got my eyes on, and I have to get an 1850 rating really fast to manage that. I'm hoping I can manage it the first week or so in the mad rush that will happen.
Individual rankings... I wonder how that is going to work out.
 
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