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Old 07-11-2007
 
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Default Warrior PVP Build

Not sure if there was a name for this build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LIGczhbV0bZVZfVds0hdbL

Maximizes the amount of stuns you can put on the target through disarms thunderclaps shield bashes, periodic mace stuns etc...

Sound good? I've never had a 70 warrior before, so I don't know... It seems that blizzard changed the warriors enough to where they have as many options for stuns (though not as long) if you spec the right way.
 
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Err so what should this build be fore? 1on1? BG's? Arenas?
 
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Okay here's the secret about warrior's and PVP.

Find a healer and spec MS or bust.
 
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PvP Arena Build with Secondwind/Blood Frenzy
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pV0xbAbqM0dbZVVzVMxR

Comment: Secondwind is very much needed in the arena, every 10,000 HP you have you regenerate 2,000 over eight seconds of it when you lose control of your character and gain a ton of rage. Blood Frenzy increases overall damage, not by much, but its there. Mace Spec is very good for PvP, I have Iron Will maxed out even though it contradicts Secondwind. If you can resist a stun thats really good (Believe you can get +30% stun resistance with a meta gem)

For Fury you have Death Wish, and with Gladiator set bonuses you can have 15 second intercepts which gives you an extra three second stun and spell interrupt effect. Imp. Execute works wonders in those close situations where you and your opponent are neck and neck in winning/losing the game. Piercing Howl is there if your getting kited.

Hybrid PvP/PvE Build
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMhdNioM0zZVV0VMgoV

Axe Spec is selected for crits and in PvE the more crit you have, the better your DPS is because of Flurry. You have Flurry and Slam for PvE.. Imp. Charge is also there for solo grinding.

Hybrid Solo/BG PvP with Protection
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0xdAioM0zZVV0VZ0xt0h

Same as the Hybrid PvP/PvE Build, except you sacrifice Enrage and Deathwish for 5 Man Content by grabbing Defiance and Last Stand


Weapon Specialization Summary: Mace Spec > Sword Spec > Axe Spec. Axe Spec is countered by Resilience in the Arena, don't get me wrong its decent, but it loses its power due to Resilience. Sword Spec is bursty, sometimes it'll destroy an opponent, other times its a waste of talents. Mace Spec reigns supreme because the stun has a high PPM rating.

For PvE Though Axe Spec > Sword Spec > Mace Spec

Summary: These are some solid builds that are currently going around, (LXM and Al, help me out if I messed them up). I prefer the Secondwind build because I love the healing ability and Warriors are 100% heal dependent sometimes. Also as a friendly reminder, Fury is not viable for for PvP. You're essentially a Rogue in Plate, minus stealth and thats no good.

If you also need advice on gear checks try the Warrior Forums at the WoW Website. I was a bit surprised to find out that the Warrior Forums are probably one of the most mature of the class forums, they actually help you instead of telling you to reroll.
 

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Default Re: Warrior PVP Build

Arenas are the only pvp that matters so you want to spec for that.

33/28 is the best really.

You see what you want to get is second wind, because you need that rage. You'll also want the 3 points in flurry. 31/30 is ok, but second wind is better than the 2 extra points into flurry, and Blood Frenzy really isn't worth it unless your running a melee heavy 5v5, but thats really not a good idea anyways.

If your worried not having enough stuns.. well don't be. Deep Thunder will keep up them stuns easy.

Oh and no, you wont be able to disarm anyone.
 
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Err so what should this build be fore? 1on1? BG's? Arenas?
It would be for 2v2 Arena essentially, but I could imagine that 3v3 and 5v5 would work out pretty well too. Ok, since you guys say that disarming doesnt work well in pvp (whoda thunk), I'll redo the talents a little better. The main idea behind this build is to maximize the different stuns and silences you can get with mace/shield setup. Your dps will be slightly lower, but you can essentially disable someone for quite a large amount of time.
 
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Always get the disarm talent. Warriors such as myself love to poach on players that don't have Disarm Immunity.
 



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When I said "you wont be able to disarm anyone" I meant that everyone has the disarm talent or a weapon chain, so they are immune.

You might catch a stupid player without it, but usually its a waste of rage.
 
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Arenas are the only pvp that matters so you want to spec for that.

33/28 is the best really.

You see what you want to get is second wind, because you need that rage. You'll also want the 3 points in flurry. 31/30 is ok, but second wind is better than the 2 extra points into flurry, and Blood Frenzy really isn't worth it unless your running a melee heavy 5v5, but thats really not a good idea anyways.

If your worried not having enough stuns.. well don't be. Deep Thunder will keep up them stuns easy.

Oh and no, you wont be able to disarm anyone.
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Not sure if there was a name for this build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LIGczhbV0bZVZfVds0hdbL

Maximizes the amount of stuns you can put on the target through disarms thunderclaps shield bashes, periodic mace stuns etc...

Sound good? I've never had a 70 warrior before, so I don't know... It seems that blizzard changed the warriors enough to where they have as many options for stuns (though not as long) if you spec the right way.
if you're playing a warrior for stuns, you're playing a warrior for the wrong reason. If you want to stunlock people, go play a rogue.
 
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Arenas are the only pvp that matters so you want to spec for that.

33/28 is the best really.

You see what you want to get is second wind, because you need that rage. You'll also want the 3 points in flurry. 31/30 is ok, but second wind is better than the 2 extra points into flurry, and Blood Frenzy really isn't worth it unless your running a melee heavy 5v5, but thats really not a good idea anyways.

If your worried not having enough stuns.. well don't be. Deep Thunder will keep up them stuns easy.

Oh and no, you wont be able to disarm anyone.
Why does it seem that all the people who say they have a warrior MS build forget Overpower, and the fact that when you switch stances to do it you lose shit tons of rage? You can maintain 10 alone, which is basically a waste, imo- and if you skip out out on a what, ability with 80% crit that does weapon damage? That's dumb.

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btw, i was wondering (incoming noob q bout warriors)

They changed resil so that (harmful)crit-based procs like eye of the storm for shamans still proc, even though the crit was turned into a normal hit by your high resil (still with me here?)

Does the same thing apply to blood craze? if so, isnt it a decent talent, regennin 3 % over 6 sec...with warriors breakin 10k with ease? or are there still better talents?
note that it (if im right) will proc of normal white hits
 
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Why does it seem that all the people who say they have a warrior MS build forget Overpower, and the fact that when you switch stances to do it you lose shit tons of rage? You can maintain 10 alone, which is basically a waste, imo- and if you skip out out on a what, ability with 80% crit that does weapon damage? That's dumb.

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You rage dump before you switch stances, so you don't loose that much. But rage isn't really a problem. Especially in 2v2, when people are forced to focus you.

In 5v5 putting 2/3 points into tm helps a little... but I'd say flurry is still tops. Faster rage gen + damage, instead of just rage conservation.
 
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if you're playing a warrior for stuns, you're playing a warrior for the wrong reason. If you want to stunlock people, go play a rogue.
Ehh? Then why are there so many talents geared towards disabling your opponent?
 
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protection isnt a PvP tree, its a PvE tree. The only real PvP stun is the mace stun, which PvP warriors use when going with a mortal strike build(big honking 2h mace intended for Mortal Strike use, not a dinky 1h). There is something you have to learn about warriors.

We are the most gear dependent class in the game. If we aren't geared and specc'd for what we want to do, we are a joke. If you want to PvP, you get geared for it and go with a Mortal Strike spec. If you want to be a solid tank, you go into protection. If you want to be a dps warrior, you spec for DW fury. A warrior with the proper gear and spec can excell at any talent tree they choose, for the designated purpose. The change in that however, is that a prot warrior can't kill in PvP. A DW fury warrior can, but they lack the burst damage and the debuff mortal strike brings to the table. Some warriors try and argue that you can be a hybrid spec and have the prot talents you need to tank, and mortal strike for damage, but those warriors are fools. You excel at nothing, and you're just another joke. Simply put, you can't halfass it as a warrior. You decide what you want to do, and you do it. You do not try and play your warrior like a rogue, this stunlock build you have simply will not work. You will be nothing more than a nuisance. You lack any of the skills that make you a threat in PvP, good damage in Pve, or an awesome tank in PvE.
 
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