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Default Proof of the numbers of the zerg

ok i was looking through the starcraft video's
and i found proof that the zerg numbers are far greater then that of the terrans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r39hI...elated&search=
this video shows the zerg casualties in the billions
and that was just 1 battle not to mention that they couldnt all of been killed otherwise the UED would of had nothing to control with their new pet overmind
i suppose that could be a propaganda trick but still even if it wasnt in the billions, or hundreds of millions it still shows that the stats blizzard gave us about the numbers in the broods could not match up with those in the story completely

and also
you know that video with the death of the overmind and the worm whole appears
well the remainds of the overmind actually go throguh the worm whole
so maybe the overmind wasnt killed all the way
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Umm, that whole UED vid was pure propaganda. Plus it said millions, not billions, but that to was most likly propaganda as well. Daggoth commanded the largest Brood and well...

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Tiamat Brood
The Tiamat brood is the most important and the most powerful brood of The Swarm. Its role is to protect the Zerg Overmind itself. The Tiamat is specialized in tactical space combat and rarely fields any ground creatures. The Tiamat Brood is infamous for breeding specialized Zerg, such as the Devouring Ones, the Hunter Killers, and the mighty Torrasque. It was also one of the two Broods trusted enough to guard the Overmind on Aiur.

Tiamat

Cerebrate commander Daggoth
Estimated size 6.5 million
Primary directive command fleet
Distinctive color red
Named after Tiamat (Babylonian and Sumerian mythology)


6.5 million, give or take say... 1 million, to be fair. Hence the UED lied to make it seem like they did much more then they really did. The Overmind wasn't planning to attack Earth, and I doubt that the UED killed millions. The Zerg do greatly out number the K-Sector Terrans, no question about that though.
 
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Default Re: Proof of the numbers of the zerg

well if you look at the video it shows the digits going into the billions and just before it cuts out it has 1 in the billions and the numbers still going up
and also the UED tallied it in the millions so for each million kills that would be 1 tally
so even if that is true about the propaganda, and the numbers of zerg killed were in the millions then thats like saying you killed 1000 when you actually only killed 1
and another thing is, if your going by the numbers set by wiki then wouldnt you say that the zerg lost way too many men over what they had left on char
and also if you follow what wiki says then the zerg loose more cerebrates through out starcraft/broodwar then they started with because of the dark templar

and 1 last thing where does it say he controls the largest brood, like it says there he controls the most important and most powerful(understandable considering he seems to be the only one who can create the heavier zerg units like the hunter killers and that) brood but it doesnt say he controls the largest
 

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I am pretty sure that Daggoth controled the largest number-wise and powerwise. And where are you getting this 1000 equals 1 thing? The whole vid was propoganda, nothing in it can really be trusted, at all, expect the whole capturing the Overmind part. Remeber what it said about the Overmind's "plan" and the whole Stukov died at the front bits? Yeah, that vid can not be trusted to find out the numbers of the Zerg. Yah do know that it would take a very long time to kill billions or even millions of Zerg, since the UED was not using real nukes and stuff...
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerg_brood

Unless you guys can provide information saying otherwise, these are where the numbers stand.

And yes UED, Daggoth is the strongest ATM.
 
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I am pretty sure that Daggoth controled the largest number-wise and powerwise. And where are you getting this 1000 equals 1 thing? The whole vid was propoganda, nothing in it can really be trusted, at all, expect the whole capturing the Overmind part. Remeber what it said about the Overmind's "plan" and the whole Stukov died at the front bits? Yeah, that vid can not be trusted to find out the numbers of the Zerg. Yah do know that it would take a very long time to kill billions or even millions of Zerg, since the UED was not using real nukes and stuff...
story wise the zerg have lost 5 cerebrates which were not daggoth plus a minimum of 3 other cerebrates (the cerebrate you play as during the campaign and then atleast 2 other cerebrates to merge togethor to create the 2nd overmind)
thats 8 cerebrates minimum
and how many broods does wiki say they have?
o ya, 6

well since story wise i have already shown you that there is more cerebrates then wiki says then the zerg numbers are higher then that too
not to mention even if the UED did put that large of a difference in their propaganda that the zerg have already suffered huge casualties in their invasions of chou sara(their forces were all destroyed), mar sara,(once again their froces were all destroyed) tarsonis (the most heavily defended confederate world) and auir(the home world of the most advanced species in the starcraft universe as well as the oldest; therefor have alot of numbers of their own) and also their casualties from the invasion of auir onword such as all the zerg casualties on auir, like their cerebrates and the overmind, the zergs casualties on shakurus with the death of a minimum of 2 more cerebrates and then there was the invasion of the UED which probably took out less then a billion but more then a million
and yet the zerg still managed to have enouph numbers to come out on top

well 1 billion and 1 million is a really large difference
i doubt even the UED would make that large of a difference in their propaganda tapes
thats where i get that 1000 to 1 thing

well for all we know the original overmind sent probes in that direction. remember the overmind did send probes out before heading towards the k-sector perhaps with the probes, the overmind sent a small fleet of zerg towards earth(though not knowing it) and that could be part of the reason of why the UED came to the K-sector

well story wise we dont know what the UED used in the invasion of Char. for all we know they used hundreds of nukes to clear the way for their troops
i bet that would kill alot of zerg
 

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Umm, fine then. Guess BLIZZ was wrong then, cause they are the ones that made the Broods and cerebrates you know. How do you know that there are not lesser cerebrates that rose up in rank when the main ones died?

And the Overmind DID NOT send probes toward Earth. ONLY THE UED FLEET knew where Earth is. The Zerg do not, Kerrigan does not. Earth is 30,000+ light years from the K-Sector, that is a massive distance. And we know why the UED went to the K-Sector, because they saw the Zerg and Toss at the exact same time the Terrans saw em. Hence why the UED was born, and a fleet was very quickly sent out. Remember, the UED only knew of the Zerg and Toss at the start of SC, and got a fleet there in less then a year.

This argument can't end cause we have next to zero info on the UED. Only Blizz knows for sure.

But one last thing, the Zerg do NOT have billions. Daggoth had the largest Brood and that only numbered in the 10s of millions. The reason why the Zerg seem to have endless amounts of troops is cause they can spawn so fast. They are like a weed, they keep coming back.
 
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Umm, fine then. Guess BLIZZ was wrong then, cause they are the ones that made the Broods and cerebrates you know. How do you know that there are not lesser cerebrates that rose up in rank when the main ones died?
i'm not saying blizz is wrong after all it does say
Other Broods have appeared in StarCraft, but their histories are mostly unknown.
at the end of the wiki article
and i know because 1st off it says that each brood has 1 cerebrate commander
and if there were other cerebrates under their command then the broods wouldnt have become erratic when the cerebrate commanders were killed

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And the Overmind DID NOT send probes toward Earth. ONLY THE UED FLEET knew where Earth is. The Zerg do not, Kerrigan does not. Earth is 30,000+ light years from the K-Sector, that is a massive distance. And we know why the UED went to the K-Sector, because they saw the Zerg and Toss at the exact same time the Terrans saw em. Hence why the UED was born, and a fleet was very quickly sent out. Remember, the UED only knew of the Zerg and Toss at the start of SC, and got a fleet there in less then a year.
i'm not saying the overmind sent probes towards earth
i'm saying the overmind sent probes in several directions
and one of them could have been towards earth
and if the UED encountered a small fleet of zerg with this probe they could of reacted by wanting to find out more about where they came from and find out about the terrans in the k-sector to see if they encountered aliens

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This argument can't end cause we have next to zero info on the UED. Only Blizz knows for sure.

But one last thing, the Zerg do NOT have billions. Daggoth had the largest Brood and that only numbered in the 10s of millions. The reason why the Zerg seem to have endless amounts of troops is cause they can spawn so fast. They are like a weed, they keep coming back.
but you failed to prove that daggoth has the largest brood, all it says is that his is the most powerful, and i'm not surprised considering what he has at his disposal the hunter killers and all that

ok if they spawn so fast then before the starcraft war they would still be spawning and with nothing to kill them then they would still get a hell of alot of troops

and the zerg would need large armies and fleets to deal with the defences of the heavily defended worlds they attacked

like it says in the little narrative thing between missions 8 and 9

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Like a beacon, the combined power of the Psi Emitters reached out to the far corners of the Terran Sector, luring billions of Zerg to the capitol world of Tarsonis.

The Zerg, overrunning the Confederacy's best defences, proceeded to lay waste to Tarsonis' major cities and industrial centers.
see it says billions
and the quote is from sc legacy
 

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Ugh, guess we will never know for sure, cause we have zero info on the post-BW Zerg numbers, and considering all that has happened, every K-Sector race lost a large amount of troops. Poor Toss, wasn't it like 70% of Auir's pop. dead?
 
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What I want to know is where the information on Wiki regarding the Grendel Brood came from. In the Fenris entry it states Grendel carries out assimilation. o_O
 
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Ugh, guess we will never know for sure, cause we have zero info on the post-BW Zerg numbers, and considering all that has happened, every K-Sector race lost a large amount of troops. Poor Toss, wasn't it like 70% of Auir's pop. dead?

alright i'll give you that
but i think we can assume that the zerg numbers remian pretty high
ya it was 70% of auir's population that died
and i honestly dont see the protoss as a race that forms many colonies, but i refuse to believe that the protoss have a smaller population then atleast the k-sector terrans

well i guess the grendal brood would be another one of the broods not listed there
and i think the information there came from the little starcraft kinda book. i dont know what its called
 
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What I want to know is where the information on Wiki regarding the Grendel Brood came from. In the Fenris entry it states Grendel carries out assimilation. o_O
I don't entirely know, but I'm sure working meticously with the storyline and such. But nobody can prove otherwise, so that's where it stands.
 
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Like a beacon, the combined power of the Psi Emitters reached out to the far corners of the Terran Sector, luring billions of Zerg to the capitol world of Tarsonis.

The Zerg, overrunning the Confederacy's best defences, proceeded to lay waste to Tarsonis' major cities and industrial centers.
Seems like there's billions.

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Hmm I have noticed that. Heck, I have seen Wiki keep deleting any SC2 articles that pop up, and many parts of the SC sections are either slightly incorrect, or dumded down. For example, I was reading the part about the Kel-Morian Combine for my UED Campaign, and after reading the name of the Morian leader, I went back about 2-3 hours later, and the whole artical was shortened, and a good amount of info was removed and changed.
 
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Sorry this is a bit off topic but my curiosity got the best of me. I was watching the movie and noticed something at the end I have been wondering about for awhile. It says 872 GD, is that a date or something else?
 
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