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Forum: Serious Discussion 02-17-2009
Replies: 8
Views: 5,403
Posted By Luther Stark
Re: Attraction - Subjective or Re-Framing?

I would have a hard to accepting the idea of a "universal" beauty. The word strikes me as inherently subjective.



I also have a difficult time believing that our 'core' nature is to seek out...
Forum: Serious Discussion 01-07-2009
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
To respond to an earlier point made by chaos: ...

To respond to an earlier point made by chaos:



Saying Caesar is no longer alive is logically similar to saying a square no longer has four sides. As soon as it stops having four sides, it...
Forum: Serious Discussion 01-07-2009
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
I measure the value of life by the individual's...

I measure the value of life by the individual's quality of experience. Positive qualities I label "happiness" (for lack of a better word) and negative qualities I label suffering (which I think fits...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-30-2008
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
Ditto to what kaizen said. I tried to pick up...

Ditto to what kaizen said. I tried to pick up both books today but niether the local borders or library had them... will have to order. Although i think i found an online copy of meditations. ...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-28-2008
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
I don't know if "beneficial" is the right term,...

I don't know if "beneficial" is the right term, but it may at times be a better alternative than not accepting the pain? Sometimes I'm faced with painful situations, despite my greatest efforts. ...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-28-2008
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
I deleted the post because I was wrong to have...

I deleted the post because I was wrong to have made the post in the first place. One of the things I believe is that I shouldn't state my own views or beliefs unless my intent is for others to...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-28-2008
Replies: 34
Views: 2,433
Posted By Luther Stark
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-10-2008
Replies: 101
Views: 6,380
Posted By Luther Stark
The death penalty is intolerable. It fails to...

The death penalty is intolerable. It fails to acknowldege the value of life and therefore is guilty of the same crime as those charged with it.
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-06-2008
Replies: 101
Views: 6,380
Posted By Luther Stark
Somehow i think that the hell you would've had to...

Somehow i think that the hell you would've had to create for yourself in order to do something like that would be punishment enough. That - or insanity. (And I obviously have no desire to hurt the...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-06-2008
Replies: 101
Views: 6,380
Posted By Luther Stark
I dont see the point. Revenge is for sissys, its...

I dont see the point. Revenge is for sissys, its too easy. Everybody wants revenge. You want to punish someone who harms you? Try forgiving them. See how much that fucks them up.
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-06-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I agree, it is absurd to call beliefs rationale. ...

I agree, it is absurd to call beliefs rationale.

But beliefs arn't beliefs because they are they opposite of rationality.

If I say, "2+2=5" This does not constitute a belief. This constitutes...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-06-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
i think the problem is you're assuming that...

i think the problem is you're assuming that everything which isn't rationale must be irrational.

As a bad analogy:just because 'food" isn't intelligent, it doesn't follow that food is...
Forum: Serious Discussion 12-05-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
There is the story of the visitors, as recounted...

There is the story of the visitors, as recounted by heidegger, who came to the house of Heraclitus in order to witness one of the greatest thinkers of the time.

Upon arriving, they were...
Forum: Chit Chat 11-24-2008
Replies: 15
Views: 643
Posted By Luther Stark
if pizza is a mod im leaving.

if pizza is a mod im leaving.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-24-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
But life is irrational and so to believe in life...

But life is irrational and so to believe in life you have to believe in the irrational. Your inability to be open-minded to this possibility demostrates your own stubberness.

And for God's Sake...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-24-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
You made the same mistake I expected you to make....

You made the same mistake I expected you to make. You confused the cause of our existence with the consequence of our existence. The fact that we will impact the earth does not explain why we are...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-24-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
If the goal is to get rid of that which is...

If the goal is to get rid of that which is unnecessary, you might as well kill yourself. Our existence is entirely unnecessary. Nothing depends on it. It clearly stands in direct violation of the...
Forum: Chit Chat 11-23-2008
Replies: 15
Views: 643
Posted By Luther Stark
What are you babbling about now you angry...

What are you babbling about now you angry miserable discontent?
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-23-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I think you've been indoctrinated to believe that...

I think you've been indoctrinated to believe that most religious people are unable to think of another life. Where is your proof? How many religious people are you close to? I know a number of...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-23-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I'm not a slave and that's not going to change...

I'm not a slave and that's not going to change whether God exists or not.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-23-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
That is not how most theists think of God. If...

That is not how most theists think of God. If thats all that God represented to people then I would be strongly opposed to religion.


Hundreds of thousands of people turn to religion for...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-23-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Could you explain in what way? If its too big of...

Could you explain in what way? If its too big of an effect to summarize, maybe you could just pick the thing that would change the most?
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-23-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I think the thing I have been trying to get at in...

I think the thing I have been trying to get at in this thread is that this question of God's existence is meaningless unless you define how the consequences of its truth or lack thereof would effect...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-22-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
You are correct but arguing with them isn't going...

You are correct but arguing with them isn't going to change their attitude so what's the point? You only give them excuses to try and assert their superiority more.
Forum: Chit Chat 11-21-2008
Replies: 15
Views: 643
Posted By Luther Stark
The real story on Obama's team - from a republican

"they are not excessively partisan... they are not ideological.... I’m trying not to join in the vast, heaving O-phoria now sweeping the coastal haute bourgeoisie. But the personnel decisions have...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-21-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I agree with you which is why I am an athiest. ...

I agree with you which is why I am an athiest. But many people don't understand that they are not dependent. They have been raised their whole lives to believe that they are. Without God, no...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-21-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I understand where you are coming from. I made...

I understand where you are coming from. I made the same point in a post a year or two ago. But since that time I've come to understand that for many people God is more then just some guy in the sky...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-21-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
This is ironic given the point I'm trying to make...

This is ironic given the point I'm trying to make is that we all need to leave a little more room for doubt and uncertainty in our beliefs. Thesists are certain that God exists. Athiests are certain...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
No. Its called "length contraction" and it is a...

No. Its called "length contraction" and it is a consequence of the theory that E=mc^2

Basically lets say you are looking at a train and the train has a length of 10. Now lets say that same train...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Totally. So, matter is energy. According...

Totally.

So, matter is energy. According to this theory, the exact same object can have two different lengths at the exact same time. So my body can be 6'0 and also 5'11 at the same time?
...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Jimmy, in order to claim that something exists,...

Jimmy, in order to claim that something exists, you have to be able to describe it.
Describe "matter".
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Education. I tried to avoid it but it got me in...

Education. I tried to avoid it but it got me in the end anyway.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
You assert that "matter" exists but you don't...

You assert that "matter" exists but you don't know what matter is.

Describe matter, what are its essential properties?

Off to wikipedia with you. If you find the words: "however this...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-20-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I think after reviewing this thread, its easy to...

I think after reviewing this thread, its easy to make the jump from questioning whether we can "know" for certain that god exists, to questioning whether we can "know" for certain that anything...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-18-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
In your effort to create the illusion of having...

In your effort to create the illusion of having conflict with me, your mind purposfully ignored the qualifier "with yourself". We ought not to have contradicting beliefs with ourselves.



Do...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-18-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
The problem with "overcoming" conflict as a...

The problem with "overcoming" conflict as a meaning of life is that "conflict" is never overcome. Rather, conflict is simply seen through. This is because all conflict ultimately originates within...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-18-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Yes, both of you have made it perfectly clear...

Yes, both of you have made it perfectly clear with your posts that conflict is what drives you.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I think we may have different conceptions of...

I think we may have different conceptions of happiness. You seem to be defining happiness as being related to physical pleasure obtained from things like drugs and sexual experiences or maybe gaining...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I guess we just disagree in philosophies. I...

I guess we just disagree in philosophies. I don't believe that anything can be of value if it doesn't have an effect on the overall quality of your experience, or the experience of others. And I...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I'm not disagreeing. Its just that not all...

I'm not disagreeing. Its just that not all theists think this way (infact, I doubt that when man first invented God it was because they had a desperate urge to explain everything like we do today. ...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I personally believe that there is no reason for...

I personally believe that there is no reason for our existence.

I dont think the important difference between people is whether they believe in God or not.

I think the important difference is...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
So 20% = 50%? Yes I have. Both sides...

So 20% = 50%?



Yes I have. Both sides have at stake the belief that their existence doesn't have an explanation.

Theist: Why do we exist? Because God created us. Why did God create us?...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
Lets assume that God exists. Why did he create...

Lets assume that God exists. Why did he create us? What was he hoping to accomplish? What logical reason did he have to create us? The point is he didn't have one. It is the very fact that our...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-17-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I will restate my position that I dont think it...

I will restate my position that I dont think it is the urge to be part of something eternal that draws people to god, but rather the urge to express gratitude for a temporary existence which has no...
Forum: Chit Chat 11-14-2008
Replies: 78
Views: 2,598
Posted By Luther Stark
Most of the public schools I know already require...

Most of the public schools I know already require community service.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-10-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I disagree. I think that for the majority of...

I disagree. I think that for the majority of people God is essentially the belief that the universe is ultimately not a bad place to live. And while you or I may be able to reason that conclusion...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-10-2008
Replies: 48
Views: 2,479
Posted By Luther Stark
To return to the OP for a moment: If...

To return to the OP for a moment:



If your main fear of Big Brother is that it will destroy all of our reps, then I hope you will forgive me for not being overly concerned.
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-10-2008
Replies: 407
Views: 13,991
Posted By Luther Stark
I use to be very opposed to religion. I thought...

I use to be very opposed to religion. I thought people who believed in God were ignorant. Recently, I have come to understand that one of the main reason's people believe in God is because they...
Forum: Serious Discussion 11-06-2008
Replies: 94
Views: 3,903
Posted By Luther Stark
DaDaimon that is over the line. Everyone here...

DaDaimon that is over the line. Everyone here strongly believes in freedom of speech but when you sign up on blizzforums and you come to serious discussion you are held to a higher standard. How do...
Forum: Chit Chat 11-05-2008
Replies: 65
Views: 2,051
Posted By Luther Stark
Obama has repeatedly stated that race should not...

Obama has repeatedly stated that race should not be a factor in people's decisions. I love how conservatives project their own racism onto us. We didn't vote for him because he's black. We voted...
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